The latest SlateCast episode featured Dimitri de Jong, founder and CTO of 204.ai, in conversation with Liam “Akiba” Wright, editor-in-chief of CryptoSlate, and Nate Whitehill, CEO of CryptoSlate. The discussion centered on de Jong’s innovative work at the intersection of AI, blockchain, and artistic expression. His experience spans decades of research and development in decentralized systems, blending technology with creative vision.
From Microelectronics to AI and Blockchain
Dimitri’s journey began with a foundation in microelectronics and systems theory. As he explained, this background provided a deep understanding of complex systems and their optimization. His work in the 2010s revolved around using machine learning to simulate rare events and improve microchip designs for diverse environments, from space missions to nuclear reactors.
“I specialized in systems theory and nonlinear systems to optimize designs in virtual environments,” said Dimitri. “That foundation translates directly into understanding decentralized systems.”
This knowledge eventually led him to blockchain and AI, where he developed data sovereignty solutions such as Ocean Protocol, a decentralized data exchange, and Nevermind, which focused on AI agents and data ownership.
204.ai: Fusing Art and Technology
Dimitri described 204.ai as an “interactive design studio” where AI and artistic research converge. The studio explores immersive generative art, creating unique experiences like stepping into AI-enhanced paintings or witnessing fossils “come alive” through dynamic overlays.
“We aim to make AI interactions multi-sensory and deeply engaging,” he said. “For example, we use brain-computer interfaces to enhance real-time generative designs.”
204.ai’s work spans institutional projects and public-facing immersive experiences. Dimitri emphasized the importance of bridging creative expression and technological advancement from kinetic installations to AI-driven nature simulations.
The Vision of a Universal Recommender
Dimitri’s concept of a universal recommender system, which prioritizes user privacy while enhancing digital lives, was a key highlight of the discussion. Unlike traditional recommendation engines, which often exploit personal data, this system would allow individuals to own and control their data “pods.”
“Imagine owning your data and having a local algorithm predict what you want, rather than platforms pushing content at you,” Dimitri explained. “This model gives users agency and aligns with their personal values.”
This vision extends beyond personalized recommendations to enabling secure interactions with AI agents and digital services, empowering individuals in a data-driven world.
Democratizing Creativity with Generative AI
Dimitri highlighted AI’s potential to democratize art, enabling creators with limited resources to bring their visions to life. Using in-house tools, 204.ai amplifies the creative process, giving artists new capabilities to express themselves.
“People with the craziest ideas will soon have the tools to execute them,” Dimitri said. “We’ve seen amazing storytelling emerge from combining generative AI with performance art.”
However, he acknowledged challenges, including maintaining artistic integrity and addressing ethical concerns in AI-generated content.
Ethical AI and the Future of AGI
The conversation also delved into the ethical implications of AI, particularly Artificial General Intelligence (AGI). Dimitri emphasized the importance of open-source AGI in preventing monopolization by private corporations.
“AGI must be developed as public infrastructure with diverse input, including tribal and cultural wisdom,” Dimitri argued. “Corporate-aligned AGI will never serve humanity.”
He stressed the need for widespread participation, artistic exploration, and regulatory frameworks to ensure that AGI evolves responsibly.
Final Thoughts
The SlateCast episode with Dimitri de Jong offered a glimpse into the transformative potential of decentralized AI, blockchain, and generative art. From redefining how we interact with technology to creating a fairer, more transparent digital ecosystem, Dimitri’s vision is a compelling roadmap for the future.
As AI and blockchain continue to evolve, their integration into art, data sovereignty, and ethical innovation promises to reshape society. The intersection of these technologies remains an exciting and critical space to watch in the coming years.
Episode Hosts
Nate Whitehill, a technology entrepreneur with nearly two decades of experience developing web applications, plunged into digital assets upon discovering Bitcoin in 2015.
Also known as “Akiba,” Liam Wright is a reporter, podcast producer, and Editor-in-Chief at CryptoSlate.